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Pages and books can be deleted by administrators. These decisions are generally backed by consensus from a discussion on this page under the deletion section. No process is perfect, and as such, pages or books can be nominated for undeletion in this section. The following is the procedure:

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Nitro typeEdit

  The following discussion has concluded. Please open a new discussion for any further comments.
Referred to English Wikipedia. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:06, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I think the page Nitro Type should be undeleted. The adiminstrator that deleted it (Eagles 24/7) mass deleted the creator's Marwato created pages because of a accusation of sockpuppeteering (according to the talk page) The other pages of nitro type were deleted in 2012 and 2015, but the Nitro Type article must've been good if it didn't get deleted because it was a bad article. Oh and btw this is on the english wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stntinoo (talk • contribs)

@Stntinoo: This appears to be a problem for the English Wikipedia, not here. Please ask them. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Some gaming pagesEdit

  The following discussion has concluded. Please open a new discussion for any further comments.
These books appear to have been undeleted. I am closing this thread as it is getting a bit too long and unwieldy. Please open any further requests for game book undeletions in a new thread. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to request the undeletion of some game guides, seeing as there's the new Wikibooks:Strategy guides policy:

I might request the undeletion of more soon, if anyone's ok with that.

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 17:43, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

I have a few suggestions, too.
I'm super excited that you've allowed strategy guides again! Scrooge200 (discuss • contribs) 17:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan: and @Scrooge200:   Done . Couple of notes:
  • there may be some deletion tags lying around that you will need to remove
  • it is permissible to move content from StrategyWiki to Wikibooks - should you want to do that, file a request at WB:RFI. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:04, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I really appreciate this. Sadly there are a lot of sub-pages (like on Final Fantasy I) that need to be undeleted, but it's probably too time-consuming for you to, I'd imagine? 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 18:07, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Is there a list of such pages @2005-Fan:? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
I'll start with Final Fantasy I. it was transwikied to WikiDream, which is now long gone:

I could move these as subpages of Final Fantasy if undeleted. Also, if I list the subpages for more pages, it could clog up this page. In case of that, is there anywhere else to list them or is it suitable to list here (assuming these requests are moved to an archive)? 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

  Done . As you have noticed, I've given you reviewer early so that you can move these pages without having to create redirects. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
I've noticed, thank you! I've moved roundabout all of them. Sadly, there's so many that I found a couple of more:

There's even more (ex: enemies, items, weapons, armor) but because they can prob merge into a subpage, I'll link an example of each (perhaps can be converted into redirect) so I can see how they formatted these back in the day and figure out how to integrate them into one of the subpages (e.g. Goblin is enemy, so see if it can go into Final Fantasy/Enemies):

@Leaderboard:

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 18:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

  Done , except that FF1: Ice Sword and FF1: Oxyale does not appear to exist. Also it's OK to list the pages to undelete here, it'll be archived later. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
It's ok? Okay, so apparently FF1: Goblin redirects to a deleted page, so FF1: Imp will need to be undeleted. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done , and yes, it's OK to list the pages for deletions even if it's long. Go ahead. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:22, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Okay, just thought you'd be overwhelmed by all the pages (it's a big project). I'll post more then:

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:39, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@2005-Fan:   Done as long as they existed. Keep it in this format. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:59, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Keep in FF1: format? I moved a lot to becoming subpages of Final Fantasy. This should be roundabout everything undeleted. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:00, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan: I meant keep the pages that you want to be undeleted in this format (that is, a list). Makes undeleting faster. What you're doing is right. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Oh you meant don't add pipe links. Yeah I've been trying to not do that in the last few lists. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:12, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
missed one: FF1: Dark 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Here's the subpages from some of the game pages listed above:

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@Leaderboard also can you undelete Wikibooks Pokédex? I'll move it to Pokémon:Pokédex 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:41, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done as long as the pages existed (some didn't). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: also, copying what was on Template:Wikibooks Pokédex:Index List to Pokémon:Pokédex article Without undeleting the template? The Pokedex was transwikied to a now-defunct wiki in late 2006 (gmcfoley.com no longer exists). 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:48, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan: This is what I see (edit the source):
<div style="text-align:center">
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by ability|Ability]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Alphabetical Index|Alphabetical]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by egg group|Egg Group]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Evolution Index|Evolution]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by gender|Gender]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon Moves|Moves]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Fiore Index|Fiore]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Hoenn Index|Hoenn]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Johto Index|Johto]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:National Index|National]] |
[[Wikibooks Pokédex:Japanese Index|Japanese]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by stage|Stage]] |
[[:Category:Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon by type|Type]]
</div>
:::
Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard:
The following can be undeleted:
Wikibooks Pokédex:Alphabetical Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Evolution Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Pokémon Moves
Wikibooks Pokédex:Fiore Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Hoenn Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Johto Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:National Index
Wikibooks Pokédex:Japanese Index
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan Super Mario World/Yoshi's Island/Iggy's Castle and Super Mario World/Vanilla Dome/Vanilla Dome 3 might be a bit too minimalistic, though possibly tagging them as {{stub}} would be okay for now. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 00:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Here's a massive list of Pokémon stuff @Leaderboard::

And some Super Mario World (and Super Smash Bros.):

2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 21:28, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@2005-Fan: As long as they existed,   Done (both deleting and, for the Pokédex ones, moving). Most of the Pokédex pages towards the end of your list didn't seem to exist. You will not see them on Special:RecentChanges because I set the flood flag to prevent polluting RC with these undeletions/moving. You can remove the "Human, not bot" option to see them. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 07:24, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
The pages linked on Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VI probably need to be undeleted as well. There are also some templates now redlinked on the pages. I could make some queries to list them if needed, but they will appear on Special:WantedTemplates within a couple days either way. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: Thank you, you've been a big help. I was going to say that a bot would be needed to fix the huge amount of Pokemon articles. Here's a couple of SSB pages:
And yes, I agree with @1234qwer1234qwer4:. Thank you for the reminder. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 11:29, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: What do we do about the template Template:Wikibooks Pokédex:Basic Statistics? It's on 300+ Pokemon articles but it can't be replaced using automation. There are also several type templates (e.g. Template:PokemonGhost (complete list can be found here) that could be bot replaced with the text that the template consisted of (ofc not categories, etc.) 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 11:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
What's the problem with restoring the template? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
I just thought it would not be allowed (seeing as if every wikibook had free reign on templates, it could clutter the wiki). 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 11:58, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
I don't see why that would be a problem. Transcluding the same wikicode on dozens of pages is exactly the point of templates—and if it's in the scope of Wikibooks, it probably isn't "clutter". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
It looks fine to me. That template is used in the Pokedex wikibook, after all. I've restored it. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard Do you think you can restore the other templates from the linked list as well? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:48, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Can you list them to me? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 05:18, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard see [1]. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:03, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4:   Done - all instances of Template:Wikibooks Pokédex:(name) have been moved to Template:Pokémon/Pokédex/(name) as well to match the book style. Done under the flood flag. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 09:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, but you really did not have to suppress the redirects now. They don't do any harm in template space, and even if we fix the hundreds of pages that are transcluding the old template name, viewing older versions in the page history will still be ugly. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4: I didn't know that - don't think it would be too hard to write a script to restore the redirects if needed though. P.S: there are 118 tagged pages for deletion which will need to be removed - they are tagged as no longer required and hence I'm not sure. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 09:29, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
By the way, {{PokemonTypeMatchingKey}} looks like it needs to be restored as well. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:46, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Also, there are actually only 38 pages templates for deletion, the rest are the pages where the template is transcluded since somebody forgot to <noinclude>. I can remove the template, but I might as well simultaneously add (with <noinclude> this time) a category like Category:Book:Pokémon/Templates. What do you think? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4: I don't see an issue with your approach. Would be a good idea considering how many templates that book has. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 10:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
It seems it's even crazier than I thought. All the 254 candidates for deletion seem to be listed just because of {{PokemonTypeMatchingKey}}—the rest are transclusions and transclusions of transclusions. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
So I was not right and I had to remove the deletion template from 28 other templates. I added the category to all the templates. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Could you tell exactly what you want "fixed" in the Pokémon articles? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
I already listed what i wanted fixed 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 12:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
If it's about restoring the templates, a bot is not needed. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:25, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan, 1234qwer1234qwer4: I've restored the Super Smash Bros, FF4 and FF6 articles, and moved the FF6 articles to the right place. FF4 does not have much in it, and both of you can move to the right place with suppressredirect. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 11:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. It appears that there were more pages in the FF4 book, such as the ones listed at Final Fantasy IV/Characters. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:06, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4:   Done , though only half of the characters appears to exist. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:09, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: There's also some confusion with the "FF2:" pages that redirected to FF4: (as the original SNES release of Final Fantasy IV was localized as Final Fantasy II). Therefore all should be renamed as subpage of Final Fantasy IV:
Then there's also:
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 12:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done in that I've restored all of them. I don't know much about which games should belong where - you can move them to the right place as before. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:29, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: hold on, there's a deleted page at FF4/Red Wings. It should be at Final Fantasy IV/Red Wings. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 12:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
FF4: Red Wings is now a broken redirect; it seems that FF4/Red Wings is the actual page to be restored. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:32, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan, 1234qwer1234qwer4:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 12:34, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
  Comment I think Pokémon/Pokédex/Beat Up can be speedily deleted. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
  Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 05:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: Can Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, and Final Fantasy XI also be undeleted? Thank you 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 14:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 17:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: Okay, here comes the big list of subpages:
Final Fantasy X is weird because it has a separate wikibook that was called Illustrated Guide to the world of Spira (FFX and FFX-2), which applied to two games rather than one, so how do we handle this. Anyway, list for both:
@2005-Fan:   Done where they exist. Done under the flood flag, so unset the no-bot option to see them in recent changes. You can merge the two books you listed into one. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard:
Here's some more subpages:
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard:
Also, this template: Template:Final Fantasy VII/Walkthrough Navigation 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: Thank you so much. Also these two templates:
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard: Appreciated. I think I found a couple of missing ones for Final Fantasy X:
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done (the last one had content which you can restore). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:37, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@Leaderboard:
These were deleted for being blank as well. Perhaps they can also be restored?
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done where they exist. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:44, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I know you suggested I request temp admin, but I found these two loose pages as well (just so the whole set is done)
2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 19:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 19:59, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
one more for FF VII: Template:Final Fantasy VII/Character Navigation 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:20, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
@2005-Fan:   Done Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 20:24, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
{{RaiseAttack}}, {{SteelType}}, {{FlyingType}} and more look like they need to be restored as well, but I'm not sure there is a good way to get the full list. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4:   Done --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:08, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Restoring a deleted pageEdit

The following page has been deteled recently without discussion: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Anorgaaniline_Keemia/Atmosfääri_osakesed It is not spam. Please help me restore the content and move it to a proper place at Estonian wikibooks. By mistake the author entered "en" instead of "et". Me and my student would be very grateful for your assistance as we are not so proficient with wikibooks.

I'm not sure why you can't just recreate it as it was clearly pasted in from another source. Anyway, I have restored it and moved it to your sandbox - here - where it will stay for a maximum of 7 days. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 12:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Super Mario 64 DS RequestEdit

A user in the [[talk page for the Wikibook Super Mario 64 DS believes there may be content of value at Super Mario 64 DS/Tall Tall Mountain and Super Mario 64 DS/Bob-omb Battlefield. Is this the case? --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 05:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

DeletionEdit

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MicronationsEdit

  The following discussion has concluded. Please open a new discussion for any further comments.
Kept, been open a while and no consensus has been gained for deletion. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 23:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I think this book should be deleted, as the book does not serve any purpose. "Micronations" aren't real to begin with, and what I am seeing are users trying to use their own definition of a micronation. It feels like a fantasy book. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 17:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Many people consider the creation of a micronation as a hobby not necessarily to be taken seriously by others, I believe this book has as much of a purpose as books on woodworking, cooking, painting etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.29.96 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
    • "not necessarily to be taken seriously by others" - so therefore, it's not exactly "Educational", is it? —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - Voting delete due to its vast history of being the center of multiple hoax "micronations" and, imo, fails Wikibooks:How-to textbook guidelines: "These should be educational resources worthy of being called a Wikibook." This doesn't seem educational or useful to me considering that creating a micronation isn't exactly replicable. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
  • save instead of deleting one of the few good resources for basic research in the field of micronations try considering this book as a useful in theoretical planning of new nations as a hobby. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.29.96 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
It'd be more useful if it included some factual material rather than ideas dreamt up by the editors. For example, a book on how to build a warp engine from things you find in your garage would not actually be educational despite suggesting that it was useful for someone "theoretically planning" to travel faster than the speed of light. I think the scope of the book needs to be looked at carefully if it is going to be kept. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 20:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
  • This book does include factual information quoted from international law on the creation of new states, so if someone had the will to build a nation and the money to back it up this book would provide useful information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.29.96 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
  •   Comment I've only skimmed the book so I may be off the mark here. I think if the book examined things such as the relation between micro nations and recognized states it would be of more scholarly use. For example, compare the symbiotic relationship the Conch Republic has with Florida as a tourism attraction with the swift rebuke of Liberland by it's neighbors. Or look at what circumstances causes a micro nation to be founded, like Sealand or the recent attempt to temporarily settle East Sister Island as a sort of COVID-19 isolation state. I think the interplay between recognized nations and micro nations, and the tangible effects they have are quite worthy topics. Meanwhile, current chapters such as Micronations/Starting your own micronation/Extraterrestrial Territory are hard to take seriously. For example, I don't think any nation would declare war on someone for claiming all of space, as such people would most likely be ignored. However if this chapter included serious discussion on what technology, economics, and other requirements needed to create a self sustaining micro nation in space (Basically impossible at the moment, even if you're a billionaire with a private space company, but it's worthwhile naval gazing), as well as the social challenges resulting in successfully claiming empty space that recognized states do not already claim with plausible reactions based on existing treaties and law would be interesting. In short I think there could be a good Wikibook on Micronations, but am unsure if there will be one, if that makes any sense. As a slight tangent, the designing a flag page is pretty decent, if short, and would do well in a Wikibook about Vexillology, if there was one. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 22:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I would agree that there are pages in the micronations book that are more sci-fi that instructional. If the sci-fi pages were removed and the other chapters rewritten to be more neutral and informational would that make to book more worthy of saving? 68.13.29.96 (discuss) 23:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Comment I'm not saying that those pages would necessarily have to be deleted, especially if they can be made useful. I'm saying that the book would have to be useful in a classroom environment to be kept. In order for a book on Micronations to work on Wikibooks, I think it would have to approach it from a sociological (How Micronations interact with Society), historical (History of Micronations), psychological (Who are the people that found micronations, and do they share common psychological traits), economical (How does a micronation make money), civics (What is the role of a citizen who starts their own nation? What does that mean in the context of their original country?), or political science (How micronations treat other nations and how they are treated by other nations) perspective (Really making it relate to any academic discipline as a goal while writing would be a huge step in the right direction). I hope this explanation helps, though this is really just my personal understanding of things. I'm relatively new to Wikibooks myself so I'd want an more senior user to confirm if this point of view is decent before taking this as a good interpretation of Wikibooks policy. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 07:58, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
A phrase found in our documentation is "textbooks, manuals, and other instructional texts". Often we just say "textbooks", but I don't know of a precise definition of that on this sister (though we sometimes consult en.wp's article); it's not clear to me that classroom use is required. Just saying. I myself have contributed a great deal over the years to book Conlang, and hope someday it'll be ready to apply for Featured status, but haven't really thought about how it would play in a classroom. There are quite a few academic courses in conlanging; I believe some linguistics educators find it a deeply thoughtful way of engaging students into their subject. So, while I agree that fiction is rather beyond-the-pale original research, seems to me requiring classroom use may be a bit too conservative. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 13:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
  Comment Thank you for the clarification! That makes a bit more sense. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 15:40, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
  •   Comment : How about a cleanup instead? I've looked through it a bit, and it generally looks alright; micronations may be made-up entities, but the concept of micronations is not, and there is a wealth of reliable sources that this is the case; e.g. try googling "Principality of Sealand". However looking at the Micronations/Starting your own micronation section is where the difficulties arise, it looks like primary research; or if was actually sourced it seems fantasy oriented. If the book is kept, these "Starting your own micronation" pages could be deleted or redirected, the TOC updated, the rest of the book would probably be OK. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 16:00, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  Keep I agree about cleanup. I've begun working on a section called How Micronations Function which looks at how existing micronations tend to interact with their host nation. It's stubs right now, but I think there's real potential about this topic now that I've thought about it more. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Well it could be RfDed, or at least cleaned-up. But I do know that islands are manufactured, Dubai being the obvious example, so it seem reasonable to have a book on island construction. There is some sourcing; but how close the book is to reality is not something I'm sure about. But overall I think its best to have it separate from the Micronations book (if at all). --Jules (Mrjulesd) 13:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Set Theory/IntroductionEdit

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Result was kept, no consensus for deletion. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 09:16, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Someone RFD'd this, and I completely agree. The introduction is badly written. As @JeremyBoden: said in the discussion section of the aforementioned page: it is historically incorrect.

  •   Delete Everything in this section does not follow, and I feel a request for deletion is qualified. --Mathmogeek (discuss • contribs) 15:09, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
    •   Comment @Mathmogeek: do you think anything here could be salvaged? I think personally it might be better to have some sort of introduction page. What could be done is anything inaccurate would be removed, just leaving whatever seems OK. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 10:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  •   Keep I've removed that dubious claim about Cantor. Its often better to clean-up then discard. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 18:47, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Remove the Bridge CrossingEdit

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Specified pages in book deleted. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 10:03, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

As I am now cleaning up the Puzzle wikibooks on Puzzles/River Crossing , I came across this pages that needed to be deleted due to the pages are listed as list of puzzles which does not add depth to the puzzle wikibooks (which was causing the book to be nominated for deletion at first place) also this was duplicate of the contents I will be writing later on :

  1. Puzzles/Logic puzzles/Bridge Crossing/Solution
  2. Puzzles/Logic puzzles/Bridge Crossing
  3. Puzzles/How do you ... ?/Crossing the Bridge
  4. Puzzles/How do you ... ?/Crossing the Bridge/Solution
  •   Comment this was proposd by Special:Diff/3567425 on 2 September 2019 by User:Encik Tekateki. I am "bumping" it to see if anyone has any comments, including the proposer after this length of time. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 23:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
    •   Delete For all intention and purposes, this Puzzle book is focusing on the in depth discussion of the various puzzles and instead of "standard puzzle and solutions" which you can buy off from Amazon. See my created pages of similar topics Puzzles/River Crossing which discuss the origins and derivatives :) . Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 04:17, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

On ComedyEdit

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Deleted per consensus. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 10:16, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Stale book, no meaningful content. Content in subpages are headers w/o any substantial text. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 07:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

  •   Delete , nothing much there, what is there looks poor, little chance of further development. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 09:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  Neutral It's a stub, and there are bits of content in the book, but not sufficiently enough for me to vote keep. I would disagree that it can't be further developed; however, the contribution has not been there for years. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 09:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  Delete Delete this book Encik Tekateki (discuss • contribs) 13:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Simplex PhysicaEdit

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Deleted per consensus. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 16:22, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Stale book, abandoned nearly 7 years ago. There is also another option, which is to redirect the 2 pages to Physics. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 13:48, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  Delete Nothing worth keeping in my opinion. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 14:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

PinyinEdit

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The decision was   Delete . It may take me some time to delete all these pages, but I will try to get it done soon. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:18, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I've looked through the subpages of this book and while most pages can be fixed by adding pinyin (with actual tone marking) and their equivalent in Mandarin Chinese, pages like Pinyin/Hubble spots evidence of water plumes on Jupiter’s moon Europa & Pinyin/N Korea fires missiles (2016-03-21) seems odd to be included here. In fact, some of these are original research and lacks verifiability. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

If there is a need to tag all pages for deletion, I'll tag it using AWB but would prefer being under pseudobot throughout the process. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
See also Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/Pinyin. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 16:15, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Conceptual CalculusEdit

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I think we can just speedy delete this as abandoned with no intent to develop. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 16:21, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Has nothing in it, and we already have alternatives such as Calculus. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 13:49, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

  Delete Was planning to nominate the page for deletion as well. Created 9 years ago and still doesn't have any content. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 13:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Odd possible copyvio in guide for Paper Mario and Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year DoorEdit

This is a bit odd, but I figured I'd ask about it just in case.

Was breaking up a single page book into a multipage format, and noticed that a substantial amount of in game text (Specifically the text is a monologue from a character in the game) is transcribed in the guide for Paper Mario. The text is currently located at Paper Mario/Bestiary, but only consists of one column "Goombario's Tattle" of a table and not the entire page. This was added by an IP user in 2005 but was unviewable by most due to the removal of strategy guides shortly thereafter.

A similar potential issue exists in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door in the column "Description", which is instead transcribed from the in game log instead of an character monologue.

Both columns could be replaced by a writer who just describes what the enemy does in the writer's own words. To be clear, the rest of the content looks fine, it's just a table column in each, so I'm not sure what to do about it.

Thanks for looking this over! --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 01:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Part in question has been moved to Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door/Bestiary --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 21:09, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Tree Gnome VillageEdit

Old School RuneScape/Quests/Tree Gnome Village Guide copied from external source "with permission", but with unclear license. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 17:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

It's a tricky case - I took a look at an archived copy of that site and there is no notice saying that it is inherently free. Some evidence of the permission obtained would be needed. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 17:51, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Training Tips for Close Quarters CombatEdit

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Deleted per RFD's rationale. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

America's Army: Special Forces/Timing tips for Close Quarters situations Guide attributed to external source. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Tales of SymphoniaEdit

Tales of Symphonia has a table that appears to be copied directly from the sole reference on the page. Mbrickn

Do wikitable lists count as copyvio writing? 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 18:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
I am unsure. However I decided to bring it up just in case. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 21:10, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Moved to Tales of Symphonia/Items. Still unsure, but I wanted to prep the book for expansion from single page format to standard format. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Metroid PrimeEdit

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The section, Chozo Lore, has been removed. I agree with the removal of the passages as it is out of scope and does not clearly serve to assist the reader in reading this book. An introduction is suggested so that readers can understand what this game is and its objectives. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:29, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

The section Chozo Lore in Metroid Prime appears to consist solely of quoted passages from the game. Unsure if this is allowed, so I figured I'd ask. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 21:12, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Roy CampbellEdit

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Resolved. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs)

The chapter Metal Gear Series/Roy Campbell in Metal Gear Series is very clearly copied from a Wiki of some sort without attribution. It doesn't appear to be based on the old Wikipedia article, which is now a redirect but has publicly available history here. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 19:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

@Mbrickn: Okay I deleted it, and replaced it with the Wikipedia equivalent. Thank you for pointing this out! 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 20:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
No problem! Just wanted to make sure it's all good. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 20:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikijunior:Nursery Rhyme SongbookEdit

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Seems like nobody has an opinion, so I'm going to apply my judgement that this is out of scope and eligible for speedy deletion. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 08:07, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikibooks is not for source texts. This Wikijunior book is just source texts, with no additional material (e.g., the history of the song). I have been deleting pages at different times due to being out of scope but given they keep getting created I'm coming here to ask the community if they think it is in or out of scope of the project. Thanks - QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 08:15, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm not involved enough with Wikijunior to say one way or another. Perhaps if contemporary style illustrations were added, or a read it to me button was added, it would be more distinct from the Wikisource material and more fit for inclusion on Wikibooks? --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 20:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

The Legend of Zelda/StoryEdit

The Legend of Zelda/Story - Imported page from Strategywiki appears to be almost identical to one of the first pages in the game manual, sans attribution. Some of the words have changed slightly, but a side by side look is telling. Unsure what the policy for something like this, but figured I'd mention it here. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 20:10, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

@Mbrickn: We can simply post-attribute to StrategyWiki (this would involve an import and a history-merge). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:25, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
That would be good, but my real concern is that this content is almost identical to material from the copyrighted game manual. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 18:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Indeed a copyright violation. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 18:31, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
@Mbrickn: A bit confused - is the material from StrategyWiki or a game manual? Because if it's from a game manual, then StrategyWiki is also making a mistake... Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:33, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
The material was imported from StrategyWiki. The material ultimately appears to originate from the game manual, with a few words changed. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Seems that it's OK in StrategyWiki, but Wikibooks is stricter about this, and hence this will have to go. The source (https://www.ign.com/articles/2006/06/13/the-legend-of-zelda-walkthrough-709539) can be uploaded as a non-free document though. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:38, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Another instance at Super_Mario_Bros._2/Story, seems to be multiple of these. Good reason to not just mass-import things without due diligence. @2005-Fan: can you please go through and list imports that include content copied from instruction booklets and other copyrighted material? ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 18:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Found another probable instance at The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/Hyrule History (Searching excerpts of this page shows that it's almost certainly from an old official player's guide.). --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 19:24, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Possible instance at Zelda II: The Adventure of Link/Story, which I had earlier moved from the main page of the book. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 22:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Algebra IEdit

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Deleted - I agree with the comments in favor of deletion as it seems that Algebra I is just a duplication of Algebra (and therefore no merges can take place). Since the book isn't actively edited, we are unable to see any further progress that may separate it from Algebra. If any editor is willing to recreate this book and make something different, they are free to do so. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Same content as pages in Algebra.

Don't see anything that can be merged. --Minorax (discuss • contribs) 07:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

  •   Delete per Minorax. SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 03:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
  •   Delete Agreed, the intention might have been to create something different, but all steam was lost on the project a few years ago. Thenub314 (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Foundations of MathematicsEdit

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Deleted per nom. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Book appears to be fully merged into another book, and is now a redlink TOC. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 21:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:CenEdit

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Deleted as unused--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 00:20, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, I'd like this template to be deleted. It uses the depreciated center element in HTML, which should no longer be in use. Additionally, this template was made in 2013, before the major update to HTML5 in 2014. After this update, using the div approach, currently at {{center}}, does not force any linefeeds, padding, or sizes any more. Therefore, I'd like this template to be deleted as outdated (or, alternatively, archived), and for current transclusions to be replaced. EpicPupper (discuss • contribs) 20:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

It looks like the Wikibook for Trainz is the primary user of it. I think I could try to clean it up. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 20:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
@EpicPupper: Done! --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 01:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! EpicPupper (discuss • contribs) 17:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Non-Free file deletionEdit

 
Wikibooks Compose.JPG
  • Wikibooks Compose.JPG

From Gmail/Send mail, outdated and contradicts current textual description, making it no longer needed. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 04:08, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Portion of All the PlantsEdit

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Editor is clearly not being truthful about the source of material, deleted now as a copyvio and the editor warned. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 10:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)


According to the detector, part of All the Plants may be a copyvio. The text in question does seem a little bit unlikely to be original to Wikibooks. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 07:52, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I have found several other copyright violating sections. I think I'll have to delete the whole book given how entwined the violations are with the rest of the text. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 14:55, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Portions of Maya Angelou, "Phenomenal Woman"Edit

Contains the entire poem, verbatium in two pages. Almost certainly copyvio due to an original publication date for And Still I Rise of around 1978.

--Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 09:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Blades of Avernum Script ReferenceEdit

Per the book introduction

This document is basically the calls section of the Blades of Avernum Editor Appendices put in an online, easily browsable form.

All credit goes to Jeff Vogel, creator of the software and writer of the original documentation. This is just the documentation he wrote in a different format.

Unclear if this is original work, or paraphrased from a different text. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 03:11, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

File:Video game fencing.pngEdit

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Done. These can be tagged for speedy deletion in future. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 12:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Video game fencing.png

Non-free media which has been replaced by a free equivalent. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 22:26, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. I don't understand why the replacement file is free and the old one isn't. Both are screen shots from commercial video games. But if the new file is more free than the old one, then please delete File:Video game fencing.png Agnerf (discuss • contribs) 04:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment: For some reason, a few indie developers go through the VRT (Formerly ORTS) process for a few screenshots of their games. I'm pretty sure they're primarily meant for Wikipedia, but they are occasionally useful elsewhere. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 11:44, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
  •   Delete per nom. SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 02:08, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Subpages of Super Smash Bros. Melee/CharactersEdit

Super Smash Bros. Melee/Characters states that statistics were copied from external site. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs)

I don’t think the statistics are copyrighted as it’s just a list of characters and numbers. Also I don’t think he had a choice other than to copy from an external site. -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Possible CopyVioEdit

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clear longstanding copyvio - deleted. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 10:27, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Possible Copyvio at Writing a Business Plan https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikibooks&oldid=3567302&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1#:~:text=using%204%20queries.-,Permalink.,-Writing%20a%20Business

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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Nf3/2...Nc6/3. Bc4/3...Bc5/4. h6Edit

I wanted to add a new page as a new chess opening addition, but I mistyped the page title for it.

Just move it to the new name. QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 10:26, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

WER Knowledge BaseEdit

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Speedy deleted as abandoned material. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:38, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Undeveloped book from 2015 with only the table of contents present. Normally I'm in favor of keeping outlines for development, but searching for more information about "WER Knowledge Base" just lead me back to the Wikibook with few other leads. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 09:43, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

The implementation of E-Government/E-Government by country/Ukraine/Web portal "All Ukraine is residents"Edit

Basically, this is page not about some E-Government portal as it should be but about website with leaked private information, which is blocked in Ukraine (and blacklisted in ukwiki) (more on this issue). I doubt it meets general notability.--Renvoy (discuss • contribs) 23:27, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

P.S. Also text looks like machine translation.--Renvoy (discuss • contribs) 23:28, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Delete, many of the "Ukraine E-government" books seem to be translated and this was addressed by another admin in 2019, but my issue resides in showcasing a blocked website revealing private information - and may fall out of scope as a result. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:42, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
P.S. Please note that the corresponding page in ukwikibooks was deleted.--Renvoy (discuss • contribs) 19:24, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Windows Vista/Compatibility IssuesEdit

Scholarly discussion of software compatibility with Windows Vista is completely in line with our goals. Unfortunately, this page is not that. It is a random collection of anecdotes that has not been touched since 2010. It also has what I consider a biased title (I would use just “Compatibility”) and its existence would impede development of a page with a neutral name. I would therefore appreciate it if this page were to be deleted. Thanks!

(Please excuse my creation of a subpage for my article out of process. I misunderstood the directions, thinking I would need to create a subpage for my request, instead of having one made for me; I have since blanked it.) SupremeUmanu (discuss • contribs) 22:57, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Agree, the content is mostly gibberish. The fact that the page segregates hardware issues with edition shows lack of basic understanding (because with the exception of, say, a TV tuner, these are the same across Windows editions). Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:25, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Delete. Mostly gibberish.Tgregtregretgtr (discuss • contribs) 14:41, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Minecraft resource gatheringEdit

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I am withdrawing my nomination before I was logged in. Tgregtregretgtr (discuss • contribs) 18:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

NominationEdit

In my opinion,listcruft. Also,this is my first Rfd,so do be honest. And look at lots of the subpages. Like Minecraft resource gathering/Meat.96.18.219.55 (discuss) 18:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC) UPDATE: Every sub-page is also in this Rfd.96.18.219.55 (discuss) 18:32, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

DebateEdit

KEEP. This is not a reason to delete the book. Those pages can easily be improved and I don’t see a reason to delete them either.-Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 18:57, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: This user worked on the book,so is probably biased to keep. 96.18.219.55 (discuss) 23:12, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for approving my point that the book can be improved. -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 09:16, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment 2:Electric Boogaloo: This user is behind the account Your favorite emperor which has been indefinitely blocked for making harassing edits. 96.18.219.55 (discuss) 15:05, 10 January 2022 (UTC) (see his talk page.)
To the IP address: don't accuse users without proof. If you have, you can ask for a CheckUser. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 16:28, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
To Leaderboard: Here's some evidence for it here. 96.18.219.55 (discuss) 16:34, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Right OK. @MarcGarver: can comment on this; I don't have the evidence to do so. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 16:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I have already explained here. -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 07:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  Keep I'm not a fan of this Wikibook in it's current state. There are a number of obvious issues with this book. However, does it qualify for the Wikibooks:Deletion policy? I don't think it does:
  • The book is not clearly abandoned.
  • The book is useful, albeit at a bare minimum level. I do get useful information from most subpages, despite being incredibly spartan. That is to say, if I knew absolutely nothing about the game reading this would be confusing and omit significant amounts of useful information, but technically I would probably still be better at the game for having read it.
  • While many of the pages are poorly written, I don't see anything that is clearly nonsense or wrong. Many contributors here are not native English speakers or are still learning, and they can still make valued contributions
  • Books generally contain a number of subpages. The only list I can find in this book is the table of contents, and I don't think that can be called listcruft without questioning the scope of the book in general.
With that said, I do not think this Wikibook is a good candidate for deletion, though specific subpages of dubious value may be. However If I may make a modest proposal here, perhaps this wikibook would benefit from a change in scope. Change the book namespace from Minecraft resource gathering to simply Minecraft, and make the resources subpages of that. This would encourage editors to flesh out other uses for items beyond gathering, allowing the subpages to surpass stub status more easily. This change would have to be discussed before being made, but it's one I feel could lead it in a positive direction. --Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 00:45, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Hmmmm. Definitely an interesting idea. I would like to state that when I first created the book, I imagined it would contain information about gathering & using resources not just in the latest version but describing the changes throughout versions maybe starting from 1.0 since the alphas and betas might be a mess to describe in this book. I’m not really sure it’s a good idea to have one large book containing all the information about Minecraft rather than separate books describing the different aspects of it. PS is it possible to import information from the Minecraft wiki and work on it’s would it break existing pages? -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 05:14, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@Mbrickn:, sorry for not pinging you. -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 12:00, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
You're good! If you think that would help improve the book for readers, I'm all for it.
As for imports, it would primarily depend on what licence the wiki being imported from uses, and some other factors. If it's the Fandom wiki for example, that won't work since it's using a CC-BY-NC-SA licence, which is not compatible with Wikibooks licencing. CC-BY-SA and other more permissive licences should be OK though. You can make requests at Wikibooks:Requests for import. Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 12:21, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@Mbrickn:, thank you very much! The wiki is indeed a fandom so it seems that it can’t be imported. Can I use it as a source as long as I don’t copy from it? -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 15:07, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Per Wikibooks:Strategy guides It's generally preferred to cite reliable secondary or sources tertiary sources. Obvious information from the game can be simply used as a primary source. Mbrickn (discuss • contribs) 15:33, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
OK I understand. Thank you very much! -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 18:36, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  Keep Mbrickn raises some good points. Even if the book were abandoned and unfinished, it could be merged into a wikibook named "Minecraft" or something. 2005-Fan (discuss • contribs) 03:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  Keep I'll have to concur with Mbrickn. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 04:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I'm the nominator but logged in. Tgregtregretgtr (discuss • contribs) 21:26, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
A question. You only created this account last night. It seems quite unlikely that a brand new editor would start by requesting deletion of a book. Have you edited here using a different account? MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 09:27, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
No. I am that IP address that nominated the book. Tgregtregretgtr (discuss • contribs) 14:16, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Mastering_Sleep/IntroductionEdit

  The following discussion has concluded. Please open a new discussion for any further comments.
Not a valid deletion reason. When raising requests, please identify the policy areas that you think make the content eligible for deletion. Thanks. MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 18:14, 11 January 2022 (UTC)


"To master sleep take 20 minute naps to keep awake and do not drink too much coffee" Wait what is this dumpster trash. Tgregtregretgtr (discuss • contribs) 15:43, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

The Wrestling UniverseEdit

Almost INCOMPLETE, not even FACTUAL, here is the ENTIRE PAGE.

Wrestling is a competitive sport where two, or more, wrestlers physically engage in combat, in an attempt to gain control, by using different techniques, such as takedowns and joint pins to take them down to the ground and achieve a dominant position.

Wrestling has been around for many centuries, possibly even as old as mankind. The only thing that changes is the type of techniques, back then they probably used the most common way to take down their opponents, the grappling of the neck. Now you have these different type of techniques, such as wizzer (defensive move), overhead chops (attack), and clothesline (attack). More techniques in the "subpages". COMMENT:There is only 1 bluelinked subpage. That is John Cena.END COMMENT

Wrestling nowadays have more than 50 techniques, and more than 5,000 people play this sport. Wrestling is more sophisticated than it was centuries ago. Ok. Rant on this page done, this ALSO doesn't look NPOV. Sorry if I hurt your feeling,but this page CAN go to FANDOM or something. Or you can create you own wiki JUST for this page,or maybe host it on userspace. The last edit WAS in August 2021,so.... Tgregtregretgtr (discuss • contribs) 20:29, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello Tgregtregretgtr. I'm unable to see which one of your points makes The Wrestling Universe eligible for deletion according to the deletion policy. Although the book isn't the most informational, it doesn't qualify, in my opinion, as "vandalism, test edits" or "abandoned content". The introduction provides a beginner's insight into wrestling and its history and the subpage on John Cena proves that it is a stub that can be improved on. Even the page about John Cena was informational - albeit not the most organized.
Just because a project has not been completed, doesn't mean it should be deleted. Why not instead of taking so much energy into putting these projects up for deletion, you re-focus that energy on improving these projects? You seem to care a lot on making sure Wikibooks has quality content, which is great - but I think your focusing on the wrong aspect of it. Improve, don't remove. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 21:03, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
I agree with Atcovi. -Gifnk dlm 2020 Happy New Year 🎄❄️⛄️🎇 (talk) 21:38, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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