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Welcome to the General reading room. On this page, Wikibookians are free to talk about the Wikibooks project in general. For proposals for improving Wikibooks, see the Proposals reading room.

What can the Wikidata community do to make it easier for Wikimedia contributors to understand Wikidata?Edit

 

Dear all

Over the past year or so I've been working quite a lot on Wikidata documentation and have been thinking more about the needs of different kinds of user. I feel that currently Wikidata can be difficult to understand (what it does, how to contribute, what issues there are and what is being done to address them etc) even for experienced Wikimedia project contributors. To help address this I've started an RFC to try and collate this information together. It would be really helpful if you could share your thoughts, especially if you find Wikidata hard to understand or confusing, you can just share your thoughts on the talk page and we will synthesize them into the main document.

Wikidata:Requests for comment/Improving Wikidata documentation for different types of user

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 12:54, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Books source and WikipediaEdit

What common sources Wikibooks users can use for writing their books? Is Wikipedia a good source when writing books in Wikibooks? --Doostdar (discusscontribs) 18:52, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not considered as a source because anyone can write anything in it. This is specified here: w:Wikipedia:Verifiability#Wikipedia_and_sources_that_mirror_or_use_it.
Personally, I never publish any blog or forum as a source (except for Stack Overflow for computer tricks). JackPotte (discusscontribs) 07:41, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

A question about rating when I review an edit: Do I rate the edit or the page?Edit

I just visited Wikibooks and was puzzled by your request that I rate the quality. Rate the quality of what? The edit or the page itself? I liked the edit because it was a great improvement over what was written before. But I am not convinced the article's overall quality has changed much. See https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=General_Astronomy&diff=cur&oldid=3389597 --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 03:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

The review is page specific, you review the content of the page as is with the last edit(s). You don't review only the unrevised edit(s), you can send a PM to the editor(s) if you think it merits it. Panic (discusscontribs) 03:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

NotabilityEdit

A long time ago I asked a question about notability of books in Reading room but the answer to me was "We have no need for notability." Now a user in Persian Wikibooks has created a book criticizing Islam. Is Wikibooks a good host for such books or not? can WB:What is Wikibooks? specify inclusion criteria for this project adequately or not? --Doostdar (discusscontribs) 15:43, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Doostdar: Of course, Persian Wikibooks is its own project; our policies don't apply to them. But, for purposes of inclusion on English Wikibooks, what I wonder about from your description of "a book criticizing Islam" is neutrality, or (equivalently in this case) original research. There might be no problem. A textbook about criticism of Islam might work perfectly well; a textbook criticizing Islam would not fly. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 17:36, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Global preferences are availableEdit

19:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)