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Welcome to the Administrative Assistance reading room. You can request assistance from administrators for handling a variety of problems here and alert them about problems which may require special actions not normally used during regular content editing. Please be patient as administrators are often quite busy with either their own projects or trying to perform general maintenance and cleanup.

You can deal with most vandalism yourself: fix it, then warn the user. If there is repeated vandalism by one user, lots of vandalism on a single page, or vandalism from many users, tell an admin here, or in #wikibooks (say !admin to get attention).

For more general questions and assistance that doesn't require an administrator, please use the Assistance Reading Room.

Remove permission

Hi there, I was wondering if someone could remove the editor right from my account here? I don't think I'll need it in the foreseeable future. Much appreciated! Best, Maximillion Pegasus (discusscontribs) 06:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unless you really want us to, there's no reason to remove it. The right is granted automatically, and not removed when editors become inactive. MarcGarver (discusscontribs) 10:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As long as it's not a problem, I will humbly keep it. Appreciate your help. Kind regards, Maximillion Pegasus (discusscontribs) 14:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A discussion on the Commons admin noticeboard may be of interest to Wikibooks admins

I have started a discussion at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#Prototyperspective and "AI Art Application and Improvements Handbook" on Wikibooks which may be of interest to administrators on this project. The Squirrel Conspiracy (discusscontribs) 08:24, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for the heads-up! —Kittycataclysm (discusscontribs) 13:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Do we allow DeepL translations?

I'm bringing this question here because The Wikimedia movement claims to be this kind of translation, and can be considered as problematic (language and copyright issues). MathXplore (discusscontribs) 02:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

there is no general prohibition. The output may not be a good translation, which is clearly a problem. In terms of copyright, I reviewed the T&Cs on the deepl.com website and there appears to be no copyright issue albeit that I am not a lawyer. The content on the source project is licensed to allow it to be uploaded to deepl.com, and deepl.com makes no claim to copyright. In general a translation is a derivative work so the copyright resides with the original author, not the translator. I recommend importing the foreign language version here first, then translating it, to preserve the attribution history. MarcGarver (discusscontribs) 14:07, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • 7.4 All rights regarding the Content, Processed Content and/or Customer Training Data remain with Customer. However, Customer grants DeepL the non-exclusive worldwide right to use the Content and/or Customer Training Data solely in order to provide DeepL’s services to Customer. In particular, Customer grants to DeepL the right to temporarily store, modify, process, translate and transmit the Content and/or Customer Training Data, and to sublicense the foregoing rights to its subcontractors, to the extent required to provide the services set out in this Agreement.
  • 7.5 DeepL does not assume any copyrights to the translations made by Customer using the Products. In the event that the translations made by Customer using the Products are deemed to be protected under copyright laws to the benefit of DeepL, DeepL grants to Customer, upon creation of such translations, all exclusive, transferable, sublicensable, worldwide perpetual rights to use the translations without limitation and for any existing or future types of use, including without limitation the right to modify the translations and to create derivative works.
Thank you very much, my understanding about the usage of machine translations at Wikimedia projects was vague and possibly outdated, so I appreciate the clarification. I know that different projects may have different preferences for machine translation, and that is why I brought this to admin attention. If there are any other related discussions about the usage of machine translation at English Wikibooks, I would also like to learn about them. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 11:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)(Fixed indent, MathXplore (discusscontribs) 11:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC))Reply[reply]
Hello @MarcGarver and @MathXplore, I've taken note of this discussion and will shortly be importing the contents of the book I've authored from its original French version. I'll then invite members of the community to translate the book into English. Thank you for this discussion, which has enabled me to anticipate the best thing to do. A wonderful end to the day! Best regards, Lionel Scheepmans (discusscontribs) 15:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh ! @MathXplore. As you are administrator on en.wikibooks, is that possible for you to import all pages of the French version of the book, and by the way keeping all edition history of all subpages that compose the book in Wikibooks?
Here is the page from where you can all subpages in question, but if I do not mistake, it's also possible to import automatically all subpages, choosing an option during the importation of the main page. Do not hesitate to pink me if you have doubt or question. Best regards, Lionel Scheepmans (discusscontribs) 15:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Manually importing pages don't need advanced permissions, so you can do it by yourself with providing attribution. I only import things when I understand the language, French is not included in my language preferences. For the full list of our admins, please see Wikibooks:Administrators#Administrators. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 02:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for this new opinion @MathXplore. Have a nice day ! Lionel Scheepmans (discusscontribs) 17:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Linking Question

What is the WB policy on linking again? I have been operating under the assumption that relying on linking out to 1) other wiki projects, 2) external sites, and 3) other books is discouraged since our books are intended to be mostly self contained (as compared to say, Wikipedia which is an encyclopedic repository of information including some linking). But, I'm now having trouble finding this in policy. @MarcGarver was it you I got this information from? Or maybe @Leaderboard or @Xania? Thanks! —Kittycataclysm (discusscontribs) 00:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's not a policy, it's a recommended practice covered here Wikibooks:Dewikify and here Using Wikibooks/Wikipedian Primer. The exception is that there is an unofficial policy (i.e., administrative practice) of removing links from Wikijunior because it is supposed to be safe for children so providing links out to, say, Wikipedia, breaks that safeness. MarcGarver (discusscontribs) 09:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perfect, thank you! —Kittycataclysm (discusscontribs) 16:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Informing you about the Mental Health Resource Center and inviting any comments you may have

Hello Wikibooks folks! I work in the Community Resilience and Sustainability team of the Wikimedia Foundation. The Mental Health Resource Center is a group of pages on Meta-wiki aimed at supporting the mental wellbeing of users in our community.

The Mental Health Resource Center launched in August 2023. The goal is to review the comments and suggestions to improve the Mental Health Resource Center each quarter. As there have not been many comments yet, I’d like to invite you to provide comments and resource suggestions as you are able to do so on the Mental Health Resource Center talk page. The hope is this resource expands over time to cover more languages and cultures. Thank you! Best, JKoerner (WMF) (discusscontribs) 21:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think this needs community attention rather than admin assistance, should this be moved to Wikibooks:Reading room/General? MathXplore (discusscontribs) 08:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Special:Contributions/Mr_Backwards_2

Evidently a vandalism-only account. Please block, thanks! Fehufanga (discusscontribs) 10:22, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appears to be globally locked. Cheers! —Kittycataclysm (discusscontribs) 13:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Move protection to Wikibooks:Sandbox

One of our editors has repeated problematic moves on the sandbox page. Problematic redirects that came from this move are now tagged for deletion. Please consider move protection to Wikibooks:Sandbox to prevent this issue from coming back. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 07:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Protected the sandbox and some other key pages this user moved. Thank you for the heads up! —Kittycataclysm (discusscontribs) 13:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Move protection for User:Bahtch

I have found a user page move without global renaming (special:redirect/logid/5185516), so I reverted it with my reviewer rights at here. Please consider move protection to prevent further problematic page moves. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 05:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It be good to get some input by Xandradi, who claims that Bahtch was their old account, before taking any administrative actions. SHB2000 (discusscontribs) 09:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I can confirm both accounts are connected, so I am happy that Bahtch and Xandradi are the same person. MarcGarver (discusscontribs) 10:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the checks and reactions. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 11:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the feedback. I decided to directly report this to WB:AA because this is not my first time to report such issues about this user. My previous report on a similar case can be seen at special:diff/4366855. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 11:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk page of Special:Contributions/173.76.102.69

The talk page of this IP editor is being abused. Please remove talk page access. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 09:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Done --SHB2000 (discusscontribs) 09:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Alert about possible evasion of previous 1-week block at English Wikibooks (CU needed?)

@MarcGarver, Xania: I'm requesting CU comparison for an account (first account) that recently had an 1-week block (special:redirect/logid/5183613, done by user:Kittycataclysm, since January 27 UTC), and another account (secondary account) that was created during the previous block term (special:redirect/logid/5184188, made in January 30 UTC). The secondary account has less than 100 edits, but many pages that they edited overlap with the first account. The overlaps can be seen on the following pages (please check page history):

Please also note that this page list aligns with the user profiles on both accounts (both refer to the same region). In addition, special:diff/4369584 (secondary account editing first account userpage) suggests a strong connection between these accounts. I believe the behavior-based evidence above will be enough to show the possibility of Wikibooks policy violations. Please let me know if my explanation was not enough. Thank you for your attention. MathXplore (discusscontribs) 13:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have indef blocked the second account as it is clearly the same person and is being used to evade a block.MarcGarver (discusscontribs) 14:02, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Suggestion of indefinite semi-protection for Template:Ay prerequisite

This template is semi-protected for a while but it seems to be a highly visible template (90+ transclusions). Should we have indefinite semi-protection here? MathXplore (discusscontribs) 06:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Done --SHB2000 (discusscontribs) 10:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]