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number basesEdit

  • I am not sure if this is the correct place or project to post this request, but I was wondering if anyone could generate a table listing numbers (say 1000) in different bases (e.g. base 10, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64) on one of the Wikimedia projects? I couldn't find anything like that (just a table of numbers in different bases) on any of the Wikimedia projects. Not sure either if that is something that would be best uploaded to Wikipedia, Wikiversity, or Wikibooks. Even on Google, tables showing decimal, binary, octal, and hexadecimal are easy enough to find, but base 32 and 64 are not. As a Wikibook, people can then add additional arbitrary number bases as well (e.g. each page can be one chart of decimal to base n, to avoid making too large of a table). This is something that is unfortunately outside of my technical skills to create myself, and can probably be done very quickly by someone with some programming skills to generate the number table(s) automatically. This hyperlink here is at least one good example of what I am looking for, but with additional number bases (e.g. base 32 and 64). Nicole Sharp (discusscontribs) 02:50, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
    • It doesn't strike me as a crowdsourcing thing; nor, in itself, a textbook thing. Adding additional bases doesn't involve any meaningful addition of content. I could imagine it being some sort of appendix to... something, though I can't quite imagine what it would be an appendix to. I can't really picture what it would be useful for. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 11:32, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
    • This is purely for reference of course, similar to the Unicode Wikibooks, which are simply tables of Unicode characters. A book listing say the numbers zero through 1000 in binary might seem frivolous or unnecessary at first, but it can be a valuable resource for lay users who may need a visual table of such numbers, for any of a variety of reasons. I would suggest perhaps a 63-page book, each with the numbers zero through 1000, showing the numbers in decimal and their base-n equivalents (up to base 64), and probably a special page showing the numbers as a table with just the power-of-two bases, i.e. decimal, binary, base four, base 8, base 16, base 32, and base 64. If this is outside the scope of Wikibooks, then it can always be created on Wikiversity instead as an educational resource. My problem is that I do not know how to generate the thousands of numbers other than typing them in one by one on a keyboard. I am sure this can be done much more easily with a computer program. Nicole Sharp (discusscontribs) 20:43, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
      • I did think of the Unicode tables, but they're an extreme case, pushing the envelope, and even so they're much more substantive than the table you're describing. Unicode is a humanly created standard, whereas you're talking about something even more purely mechanical than a multiplication table. And a multiplication table would already be rather below the threshold of nontrivial content. I don't think even a traditional table of logarithms would qualify (though in a pre-computer age they would have).

        Perhaps such tables could be a useful illustration — maybe a single figure in some sort of book, but then one would need to whole book for it to be a single figure in. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 21:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

        • I think a table like this would be very useful for some mathematics or computer science courses as an appendix and a few illustrative examples in the text. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:45, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
        • I am thinking of moving this post to Wikiversity to be created as an general educational resource instead of a Wikibook. I believe the numbers can be generated on Wolfram Mathematica, but I am not sure yet about Maxima (the free open-source version of Mathematica). JavaScript can also generate the number lists but not above base 32 or so. There is also the question of how to portray numbers above base 62, when the Roman alphabet runs out. There are a number of different representations in use for base 64. Nicole Sharp (discusscontribs) 14:22, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Openstax Principles of MicroeconomicsEdit

Three faculty at my college are interested in using and enhancing the Openstax Principles of Microeconomics CC-BY textbook. Would this be a project that the Wikibooks community would accept / support? If this goes well, we would likely want to follow with additional Openstax titles, including the other economics books and the sociology book.

I've done some brief testing. The content is available in HTML format, and that copies and pastes fairly well into the VisualEditor. Other than structuring the sections and the number of subpages required, I don't think the workload would be overwhelming for us in terms of getting the book added here.

If there is support for such a project, do you have any recommendations on examples of how it should be structured? It has 20 chapters, and each chapter has an average of four sections. The way the content is designed, it would be preferable to keep those sections separated, as different instructors may want to link to the sections in different sequences, etc.

Should this book be added as a new title of Principles of Microeconomics, or should it replace the existing Microeconomics?

And finally, do you have recommendations for how to properly reference the source when adding this content? Would you rather see it referenced in the page content, in the edit summary, or on the talk page? What is the community's preference for referencing imported content? I personally am inclined to include it in the page content so it appears when printed, but having the reference print on 80 separate pages may be overwhelming.

Thank you for your consideration and suggestions.

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:17, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dave Braunschweig: This is a great opportunity. I'd be happy to help import it. As far as replacing the current Micro text, I'm hesitant because I don't want anything good to get lost between the two. There's no problem having two textbooks on the same topic if they are intended for different audiences (e.g. Intro to Algebra and Algebra or a WikiJunior Let's Meet the Presidents of the United States along with a serious book on presidential history and scholarship) but I don't see value in having two separate textbooks on the same topic for the same audience. I think references should be in some front matter and the edit summaries--most subpages really shouldn't have blue link talk pages in my opinion unless there is a narrow question about that subpage. I hope more Wikibookians contribute. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:56, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

This project is started at Principles of Microeconomics. All text is imported. Images still need to be imported and links corrected. If anyone wants to help import images, please feel free to join in. The source is CNX. I've been using Google Image Search to find the free source. Flickr images can be imported using the Flickr2Commons upload tool. When the original image isn't a CC-BY or CC-BY-SA, I've been looking for either Commons or open Flickr alternatives.

Regarding Wikibooks:Reviewers, what is local best practice? Are we allowed to review our own edits, or is it assumed that someone else should review a reviewer's edits?

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:25, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

@Dave Braunschweig: On en.wb flaggedrevs is an anti-vandalism device, so there's no problem with self-sighting edits. Presumably you aren't yourself vandalizing pages or you wouldn't have the review bit here, yes? :-)  Autoreview is enabled here (I think that's what it's called): when you edit a page whose most recent version is sighted, you automatically sight your own edit. --Pi zero (discusscontribs) 20:12, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Character name appendix clean-upEdit

Hey, I have a task force page called User:Cilantrohead/Character_name_appendix_clean-up now. Basically the crew monitors and cleans up the character name pages in the appenfix to Writing Adolescent Fiction in the ways listed. If you're interested in joining, or if in practice you've already been doing it, check out the task force and add your name to the list! Cilantrohead (discusscontribs) 04:49, 18 September 2017 (UTC)